Bureaucrat blockhead: jihadist involvement in Pakistani flood relief no big deal because “the needs are so vast”
August 24, 2010At the daily State Department briefing on Aug. 23, 2010, Deputy Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Dan Feldman (a former aid to Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton) dismissed concerns about the involvement of terrorist organizations in Pakistani flood relief because “the needs are so vast.”
If you have any trouble with the video above, here’s the transcript:
QUESTION: Yes, sir. (Inaudible) VOA Pashto Service. We broadcast the region which is mostly affected by the floods. When we talk to people there, we hear from them that some (inaudible) organizations are involved in distributing flood relief items, and also, it comes at a time that the Provincial Information Minister Mian Iftikhar yesterday told a briefing that the militant organization are taking advantage of the situation and they are regrouping in the area. So I just wonder how you would respond to that and you would like to comment on that?
MR. FELDMAN: I know Mark has addressed questions in the past about the vetting processes for how U.S. aid is distributed and what organizations are used. We are working with – last count that I saw – about 17 international organizations, UN agencies that we’ve worked with for many, many years that have the infrastructure in place to get this assistance out as quickly and efficiently as possible. And we continue to do that and there’s rigorous vetting about where those – which organizations we’ve worked with and what their histories are.
As we’ve discussed in past briefings, there’s always been stories about extremist charities operating. We think that in a situation like this where there’s a lot to be done, there may well be an opportunity for some of those organizations to operate. But there’s – again, the needs are so vast, there’s so much money now flowing in to some of the international organizations, their work is so well known and credible in these communities that I think that far outstrips the relatively narrow amounts that we’ve seen from the – from extremist organizations.
The flood relief is the “gift to the Islamists” that keeps on giving, and religious minorities are denied aid. With video like this from our own officials, are you still feeling confident about the “rigorous vetting” process of the United States?
of-course, its not a concern at all… they are just like any other next door Muslims… the only difference is that they show a bit more Arab-Certeric racist mentality, then rest of their brothers…
the second big issue that media is currently covering is youth lynching in Pakistani square.. it’s like Pakistan standing against mob lynching points that Pakistan has now suddenly turned into moderate country..
reality is that they all are standing, because the victim this time was grandson of a Hafiz (a title awarded to peoples, that orally learn quran…), its well visible in every muslim blog, where the weightage given to word hafiz is so high, that it dwarf the innocent tag…
if that lynching was of a non-Muslims… well we all know the scale of uprising might have seen… and what might have happen to rest of the non-muslim family in aftermath…
by Puneet Madaan August 24, 2010 at 4:32 amPuneet, I’m not sure I understand.. Are you saying that hafiz (and their relatives) get preferential treatment?
by American Delight August 24, 2010 at 6:26 amI am not saying anything, I am question the reason of such sudden sensitivity, when its not the 1st time lynching is taking place in pakistani squares..
why so much preference is given to Hafiz-hood of victims grandfather by media and Pakistani blogs ? no one asked from our side the victims religion or his status in religious society, or did we queried ?
I neither want to undermine the suffering, not i am trying to be insensitive towards the loss the family has to face…
but yet some corner inside me is asking, what if the victim was from a non-Muslim family ? does the same outcry might have taken place in Pakistan ?
and i know, that the answer is NO… in-fact Pakistan has completely ignored the lynching of Non-Muslims ( one such incident also occurred early this year, where a christian youth was blamed of blasphemy via his Job-giver ).. and he was also lynched to death, and in aftermath his family has to run to save themselves….
so does those concerns are only because the victim family is a ‘dedicated Muslim family’ or is it really because Pakistan is sick of the uncivil Virus growing in their country in shadow of Islam ? I bet that this whole outcry in that nation is just because family was from dedicated and respected Muslim family…
of course, no doubt that its a unbearable pain for the family .. and I do want to pass my condolences… but accepting that outcry as a sign of Pakistani moderates, or as a sign of awakening civil society of Pakistan … nope, i do not think so…
so in short, i pray for the family to recover from the loss … but accepting the Pakistani outcry as a sign of awakening Pakistani civil society, as portrayed and painted via main stream media… nope, i do not buy that..
by Puneet Madaan August 24, 2010 at 7:30 amDo you have a link to news/details about the lynching?
by American Delight August 24, 2010 at 1:24 pmI will return with early 2010 lynching incident link, which i have to locate back….
But as i said, that incident was not a isolated lynching… rather lynching occurs very often in pakistan, and no one cared before because the victim was non-muslims..
In Feb-2010, and article published in dawn reported a lynching case..
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/editorial/12-blasphemy-allegations-420–bi-03
Dawn also added
“The incident is part of an established pattern. Propelled and led by religious leaders, an angry mob takes the law into its own hands to punish alleged blasphemers. ” …. This is perhaps what i am trying to point… In fact one can almost draw a timeline here….
I know it occurs in every country, even neighboring india has seen lynching… but the civil society and citizens in aftermath had openly condemned it, and had not hided behind lame excuses like blasphemy etc.. where other countries try to assure that such lynch mob mentality must not develop, pakistan has invested in it heavily till now…
here some more lynch mob incidents from pakistan, where pakistani peoples failed to stand up…
http://www.catholicnews.sg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4805:pakistan-blasphemy-law-recent-cases&catid=236:fides-service&Itemid=135
– In early July 2010, Zahid Masih a Christian living in Model Town, near Lahore, was forced to flee into hiding with his family after being falsely accused of blasphemy Manat Ali a Muslim, who called a mob of extremists which attempted to lynch the poor man. Zahid was accused of using a panel bearing a few hand written verses of the Koran as a roof for the family bathroom.
In July-2010 , the same lynch mob mentality gunned down two christians outside court..
http://sify.com/news/two-christians-shot-dead-outside-pak-court-over-blasphemy-news-international-khumagebffa.html
in 2008 TV channels in pakistan clerics included Ahemdis in the lynching list
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/09/pakistan-anchor-man-calls-for-lynching-of-ahmadis-two-people-murdered.html
Beside 2008 lynching includes
http://www.persecution.org/suffering/ICCnews/newsdetail.php?newscode=6919&title=muslim-radicals-mistakenly-murder-brother-of-a-pakistani-christian-accused-of-blasphemy
Back in 2002, washingtonpost reported ” But lynch mobs have killed several of the accused. “(Information source: Pakistan’s Blasphemy Law: Words Fail Me by AKBAR S. AHMED, The Washington Post, May 19, 2002. Page B01)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A36108-2002May17
it is also worth to look at this google cache
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z3NC82oKhKIJ:www.religiouswatch.com/thread00100_blasphemy_in_pakistan.htm+pakistan+non-muslim+lynch+blasphemy&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
and the list goes on….
by Puneet Madaan August 24, 2010 at 11:35 pmAh, okay. I’m sorry if your comment took a while to appear–I think it had so many links that WordPress put it into a “pending” status for me to review for possible spam.
Anyway, from those links it sounds like these Pakistani “blasphemy” laws are terrifying.
Your link to the Washington Post article said, “Amid this confusion, Gen. Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, as president, added new laws to the penal code, including 295-B in 1982, which made desecrating the Koran or making a derogatory remark about it punishable by life imprisonment…In 1984 came the 295-C clause, usually referred to as the blasphemy law. It rather sweepingly stipulates that “derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of the Holy Prophet . . . shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine.” Then that law whipped up a whirlwind of mob justice from Muslims taking the law into their own hands against Christians.
And I see this story, the current story that I think you’re talking about, about the lynching of two Pakistanis over a cricket match. Did you mention that the two youths were grandsons of a hafiz?
by American Delight August 25, 2010 at 8:15 amyes… the flood, and the lynching is the currently hot topics in pakistan currently.. and yes this it the story i was mentioning…
here british entry, which specifically explain the hafiz too, because they expect that british do not know the meaning of those words.. which zeenews does not…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1305213/Lynch-mob-killing-Sialkot-video-sparks-mass-demonstrations-Pakistan.html#ixzz0xQ4qeaKt
and apologizes that i haven’t thought about it, while flooding you with information.. but i think you got the point..
Pakistani society harvested in controlled lynching… no one cared till victim is a non-muslim, and this time its a boom… because lynching victim turns up to be from a respected muslim family…
of course loss of life and a tragedy… but not a sign of moderates standing up as media speaks… rather the demands inside pakistan are for a sharia based justice… they are asking that lynchers must be tortured, and later hanged to death at the same spot…
by Puneet Madaan August 25, 2010 at 2:46 pmI follow you.
Christians lynched, the response is a national yawn; hafiz lynched, national outrage.
Pakistani Muslims slow to receive flood aid, national clamor; Pakistani religious minorities denied flood relief outright, national silence.
At this point I’m not sure what the difference is between Pakistan in 2010 and apartheid South Africa circa 1958.
by American Delight August 25, 2010 at 3:05 pm